Hello everyone, welcome to Economic Impact. We are Wednesday,
February 18th, 2026. Stéfane, great to see you again.
Nice to see you.
What a week and we're only Wednesday.
It's a big week for Canada.
I know it's an amazing week for Canada. So before we start, the last
time, I think we're going to do it every call because I love this. So,
all the little brackets were on the right side of the line. So, can
you tell us what happened in the last not even 4 weeks?
So, we had positive returns when we saw each other last month.
Yeah.
The year is still young, obviously, but it's actually more positive
than it was last month. And notice, Nancy, positive for everyone
except maybe 1 market, the U.S., which we'll speak to, but notice
that, you know, everything related to the reflation trade that we
spoke to last month shows positive returns. Emerging markets, the
S&P TSX, Europe. So, all in all, it's still this concept that
earnings are likely to accelerate this year with higher commodity prices.
And as it was in 2025, it's still very concentrated the investments
that are being made. So, you have a slide that's very interesting
about AI.
Well, what happened last year and what people said, well, okay, AI,
if you look at the hyper scalers, they're investing a formidable
amount of money in this. And for 2026, the investment plan is more
than $680 billion. That's only four companies Nancy. So that would
account for roughly 2.1% of GDP with just four companies.
Wow.
This has never been seen before. If you want to make a historical
comparison to other big projects in the U.S., if you go back to
1850-1859 when they built the railroad system in the U.S., they were
spending 2.2% of GDP all these companies put together. If people want
to compare it now, the AI cycle versus the Internet cycle, well the
Internet cycle was consuming 0.8% of GDP annualized. So the 2.1%,
these people, are they spending too much? Will this be a fuel, a Dutch
disease where the AI sector is taking all the capital and with
diminishing returns? So, that's what we're seeing this year a little
bit more concerned. So, when I said the US dollar, the S&P 500 was
down year to date, it's mostly because of IT, because look at
everything related to what we spoke to last month. U.S.
reindustrialization, rebuilding the electrical grid, all these sectors
are up 16, 21, 12%. So, it's a big sector rotation happening within
U.S. equities.
So that means markets are thinking that this reindustrialization
will work. That's what we're seeing here.
Yeah. And, and as you said before, and as you've told me before,
does that mean the AI cycle is dead? No, but everyone was overweight
AI coming into 2026. So, it's a sector rotation given the question
marks regarding the profitability that was promised, will they deliver
this year?
Yeah. And last time we spoke, we spoke about gold. So, I think it's
going to be a subject of this conversation again today.
Oh, we have to because, so anything related to the energy sector,
materials, industrials doing good in U.S., Canada, energy is doing
well. If you're going to deploy, we spoke about it, you want to deploy
AI, it's energy intensive. So, a big increase here. Notice materials
however, it's up 18.3% and it's having a formidable impact on both our
economy and the perception of what's really happening in the economy
is being, I think, biased by gold. Let me explain. A lot of people are
saying well Canada is finally diversifying out of the U.S. We have
found a formula to diversify. Look at the exports to U.S. down 10%,
which has never been seen outside of recession and non-U.S. exports
are up 20%.
So, who's our new friend?
Well people are asking me name countries that are our new friends
and I can't find any, Nancy, because it's not a friend, a country
friend per se. It's really one commodity that is our best friend right
now. It's gold prices at roughly $5000 an ounce. If you go back to
1791 and you price gold in 2025 dollars, that's well above the
historical average of $650.
So, there's a funny story about the $650. So, talks about men’s
suits. So, you want to tell us about it?
Well, I can't, you know, I can only speak for men’s suit,
unfortunately, on that one. But historically, people have associated the-.
The ounce?
Yeah, the equilibrium value of gold, 1 ounce of gold should be equal
to your ability to buy a decent suit if you're a man. So right now, as
you can see at $5000, those men at home that have a lot of, you know,
some ounces of gold.
A lot of gold can have a very nice suit.
Or they can go shopping for many suits.
Yeah and 650 you can still have a reasonable suit in Canadian
dollars today, right?
So, the point is we're well above the historical average. Last time
we were there was 20 years ago. You can remain above 650 for quite
some time. The geopolitical complex or backdrop is supportive of gold
prices, but it stretched. So, our view for the next 12 months or so,
it's a target range for gold of four to five, 6000. So, it might be
volatile, but we're not collapsing it because we know the central
banks are buyers. So, there is still some support and U.S. dollar is
still set to depreciate.
And so, without gold, what would we look like?
Well, it really shows that we don't have really good friends right
now, new best friends, because the reality is our trade balance is a
negative, a deficit of $30 billion right now for Canada. If you were
to exclude gold or surplus on gold, which is driven by prices, our
trade balance would be a deficit of $80 billion, two and a half times
greater. See how important that is? Because that's supporting the
currency, it's supporting the stock market and it's supporting our exports.
Yeah. So, gold takes over all the other categories now. It's never
seen before?
Well, if you think this is interesting, well, at least the next one,
which shows that the market capitalization of gold stocks surpasses
energy for the first time ever in Canadian history. So, that speaks to
the importance of gold because that's been a key driver of the S&P
TSX. So, gold is still popular with investors going into 2026 because
a lot of people were not overweight gold. So, there's some catch up
there. You have to go back to neutral. So, it is supportive and as I
said, the backdrop is supportive, but it's important to tell our
clients that this is a stretched.
Rebalancing, diversification. Those are the principles, right?
It's a crowded trade. Doesn't mean that you don't remain crowded for
a while, but be wary of how gold is impacting the economy and the
stock market.
So, we have a couple of minutes left. Can we talk about the
announcement from our Prime Minister, Mr. Carney?
Okay so we need to find new friends, right?
We do.
And one way. So in order to find new friends, we need to
reindustrialize and we have spoken to that last month or in previous
discussions. And the reality is that was the big news that came
yesterday where the federal government is pledging to spend billions
of dollars in order to find us new friends. How do we do this? By
reindustrializing. And, it's a big deal, Nancy, because it's the first
time that I can recall in many years that we're deploying in
industrial strategy based on our defence spending with a procurement
system that might favor our domestic corporations. And you know what?
It's so big. And the money spent, 5% of GDP. We haven't seen this
since the Korean War. It might entice people to come from overseas.
And invest.
And invest here in Canada with a transfer of intellectual property
to actually build stuff in Canada to benefit, obviously.
Our economy.
And the manufacturing sector, right?
And therefore, if we are investing, all of this will create jobs.
We'll create good jobs. How does it look right now?
We need jobs.
We need jobs.
Yeah, well, it depends where you live. But really the reality is
Quebec and Ontario, who are mostly or the biggest manufacturing hub in
the country, have seen disappointing job markets. So, full time jobs,
they're barely up in the territory, they're down in Quebec, but total
employment is down in Ontario. So, out West, if you want to look at
the four large provinces, in order to simplify the chart, there's a
regional divergent so you can see who's being hit with the uncertainty
about the manufacturing sector. Hence the importance of this plan that
was unveiled yesterday. Finally, we are willing to reindustrialize and
that's how we make new friends.
Well, Stéfane, thank you for this great conversation. Looking
forward to next month, there's going to be a lot of things happening,
I'm sure. Thank you for all of us for attending this little
conversation, and we'll see you again next month.